Wow Lucia, this is great, I looked at that form and I just didn't understand it so I passed on, I am glad to see you do it. Now there is an example. I have changed and I am starting from the back now and working my way forward, but I will be back there sometime. I am not sure I could tell it was a helix, but it is a good poem, and was a joy to read. Thanks for sharing it...jinx